Joining The Club That Wants You As A Member

swan recently wrote:

"I know that I long for "companions" on this path. When I get lonely, frightened, confused, lost... I wish there were others who could see what I am seeing, hear the voices in my head, speak to my heart with wisdom and experience and calm. I wish there were mentors and guides. That is the one thing that I have longed to find as long as I have written in the online universe. Those people are as rare as hen's teeth."

I'm sure many share or have shared swan's feelings on this, perhaps more strongly at times than at others.

And while finding someone who sees that one sees or "hears the voices" in one's head has to be exceedingly rare, in My experience, companions are lot easier to come by.

The first impulse, and it's certainly a sensible and useful one, is to be wary . . . . there are a lot of players and bozos out there. Potential stalkers, too. There are people who gravitate to D/s, esepcially on-line, for the wrong reasons. And obviously one needs to have enough radar to avoid those people.

The obvious evil types avoided, there's a large segment of people who are perfectly nice, apparently sane, but simply, well, not very dynamic. It's not a matter of intelligence -- I've met tons of very smart, very boring people on-line. Some people simply aren't particularly insightful, creative, funny, or sexy. Sometimes just it's the combination of two people that isn't right. For whatever reason, one will encounter a lot of people who one can be friendly with, but with whom friendship will never develop.

In the remaining small segment are the potential friends, companions, mentors, or guides. And here is where many people, I find, cut themselves off from the possibilities. The title of this post refers to the old joke (Groucho Marx?), chacterizing a person who "wouldn't join any club that would have him as a member." I find we do that a lot. Why does another person go down somehow in our estimation when it's apparent they want to be friends with us?

Now there are friends and there are friends. Perhaps no one will ever be in one's head to the degree swan wrote about, but there's a continuum there, that stretches from a person who one can casually talk about one's day with to a very trusted friend/mentor/guide, someone who understands and truly helps one navigate the complexities of this lifestyle. But it has to start somewhere. I think that often we're too picky, sometimes from fear, from the lingering pain of bad past experiences, or simply from holding others to an imposisble standard that we, perhaps unconsciously, are also holding ourselves to.

Mentoring/Guiding is more complex, especially for a submissive, since the mentor in question will almost always be a Dominant, and there can be a confusion of feelings there as the mentoring process (perforce) delves into sensitive, edgy areas. I consider Myself to have been a mentor to several people, in varying degrees, and in My experience finding a mentor is mostly a matter of dumb luck. Dumb luck and being open to the possibility that one might actually find one.

So consider that simple posisbility that the club that wants you as a member really really likes you, and that liking you is a rational, normal thing, since you have lots of good qualities and should be liked.

What a concept!

6 comments:

strongnsubmissive said...

It's been my experience that other than bdsm, i can find very little in common with many lifestyle folk. Sharing your sexuality with another person can be a very personal thing and i wonder if my reservations are often interpreted as judgmental or too picky.

Anonymous said...

There are so many aspects to explore in your posts, Leonora, I always find myself going off at tangents as one thought leads to another. I've found, as far as female submissives go, a lot of them have self-esteem issues at base level, which makes it even harder to find someone to trust, and also leaves them more vulnerable to predatory types, as you mentioned.... it's a complex issue.

Anonymous said...

This is a wonderful entry and I really enjoyed reading it.

As I'm fast approaching my 10 year anniversary of delurking into the spanking / bdsm world, I found myself rereading your words about mentoring and finding that the assumption that the mentor would be a top or dominant not really borne out by my own experience.

I definitely *expected* to meet and be nurtured by kinky men (and I have met some great ones who've enriched my life profoundly), but the most thoughtful and affirming mentors have actually been other submissive / bottoming women who were very generous with their advice and experience.

This was brought home to me this past weekend in Vegas at the Shadow Lane party when I found that I was paying forward some of that same care and advice. I've said this before, but for me, the best thing about these weekends is the chance to really sit and talk with other kinky people. :)

Hope this made some sense.

Lenora said...

Mistress Sky: Thank You. And yes, a very complex issue, the whys of people's issues with self-esteem. In My experience, male submissives have the same issues, they simply cover it with different surface behaviors.

mija: Thank you . . . and I'm glad to hear of your experience. Too many girls won't accept mentoring that doesn't come from a Dom/me . . . another aspect of "joining the club that wants you as a member" is being able to recognize good advice reagrdless of the source.

Jamie said...

From the male submissive point of view, I'd just echo mistress sky and lenora's comments on self-esteem.

I think submission is a profoundly ambiguous place for most men, and while many of us clearly need to explore it, as soon as we get any validation for doing so, as in the approach of friendship or a mentor, we run screaming in the other direction yelling "NOT ME, NOT ME, NO, that's not me!"

At least for me (and writing this, I realise that it's thoroughly unoriginal and hackneyed, but no less true for that) it's about accepting myself before I can be accepted by others.

Notmyblog said...

in several extremely active years as a female submissive I've never really had any 'mentoring' from a (male) dom. I don't know why? It was sometimes almost the other way round, and that was also very delicious and exciting in many different ways (power loop flowing both ways so strongly it threw sparks through the night)

share others' problems with a lot of people in the 'community', wish there was a better way for me to find the people who are 'my' tribe...